If you have not heard of Zi Xiu Tang Bee Pollen capsules (also called Zi Xiu Tang Beauty Face and Figure Capsules), this is a natural weight loss supplement where some websites actually encourage people to eat
what they want! Even in the educational pamphlet that accompanies Zi Xiu Tang Bee Pollen say:
“No Diet Restrictions” and that people can achieve “excellent results” even while eating “high fat and high calorie foods”.
This is the second review I’ve written about the Zi Xiu Tang Bee Pollen. In my first editorial, I covered the weight loss evidence for the proposed active ingredients in Zi Xiu Tang most notably bee pollen.
Because bee pollen has absolutely no weight loss effects – here is my original review of Zi Xiu Tang bee pollen
At first, I could not explain the weight loss people were seeing with this supplement. One commenter on my first Zi Xiu Tang review said he lost 13 pounds in 1 month! Now I know why…
How Does Zi Xiu Tang Work?
Thanks to a friend who sent me a bottle of these so called slimming capsules I can tell you that bee pollen is NOT the active ingredient in Zi Xiu Tang.
Zi Xiu Tang is a laxative!
I know this is true because several of the ingredients in Zi Xiu Tang have laxative effects. I suspected this because many websites selling Zi Xiu Tang use the word “cleanse”. Cleanse is the alternative medicine term for laxative.
Probably the most famous ingredient in Zi Xiu Tang is senna. Senna is a not a weight loss supplement. Senna is a laxative. Senna is also classified by the FDA as a non-prescription over the counter laxative drug.
Several other ingredients as you will see also act as laxatives.
Zi Xiu Tang Side effects
If you have experienced Zi Xiu Tang side effects please see my review of side effects and let me know if you experimented anything not listed.
Zi Xiu Tang Ingredients Label
Even if you wear eye glasses you will find it very difficult to read the ingredients in Zi Xiu Tang. The Zi Xiu Tang bottle and box abounds with decorative Chinese art and characters which ma
kes reading the ingredients VERY difficult. The red lettering of the ingredients makes it doubly hard to read. I had trouble even when I held the bottle up to a lamp! So, to save you the trouble, I’ve listed the ingredients here.
Zi Xiu Tang Full Ingredients List
Here is the entire list of ingredients in Zi Xiu Tang.
- Bee Pollen
- Chinese Yam
- Barbary Wolfberry Fruit
- Lotus Seed
- Dietary Fiber
- Green tea
- Rhubarb
- Aloe
- Cassia
- Astrigillis
- Polygonum multiflorum
- Lotus leaf
- Gynostemme
- Radish seed
- Malt
- Mulberry
- Hawthorn,
- “Vitamins”
Notice the first 4 ingredients are not weight loss herbs. I’ve already covered these ingredients in my first Zi Xiu Tang review. Let’s now talk about all the other ingredients.
Zi Xiu Tang Ingredients and Side Effects
Senna. Senna is a laxative. Because Zi Xiu Tang contains senna, it’s possible that the same side effects from using too much senna may be seen in those who take Zi Xiu Tang. The side effects can include,
- Diarrhea
- Abdominal cramping gas / bloating
- Flatulence
- Dizziness
Because of diarrhea, products like Zi Xiu Tang that contain senna may in extreme cases cause excessive loss of electrolytes. This can lead to muscle weakness and maybe heart problems. This is because electrolytes are needed for muscle contraction and the heart is a muscle.
People using heart / blood pressure medications should not use senna-containing supplements or products that have similar laxative effects.
To highlight what can happen with senna overdose, there is a case report of a women who developed liver failure after long term use of senna tea.
In this report, the women was drinking a liter of senna tea that contained 70 grams (2.5 oz) of senna fruit. Even with this amount, it took 3 years before liver failure presented itself. This is worth mentioning because everybody is different and people often think “more is better” which isn’t always true.
Unlike the laxative effect of fiber, senna is a non-fiber laxative. It works differently to relieve constipation. One of the ingredients in Senna is a class of compounds called anthranoids which exert laxative effects by causing damage to cells of the colon. Because of this, some have speculated that long term use of senna, may increase the risk of cancer
Because senna supplements have not been studied for long term use it is hard to say if this is true or not.
Senna products should be avoided in people who have
- Hemorrhoids
- Heart disease / Blood pressure issues
- Abdominal pain
- Bowel obstructions
- Pregnant or nursing mothers (for obvious reasons)
- Diabetics
In theory, long term use of senna supplements may make it harder to defecate as the person becomes dependant on the product.
People who take Zi Xiu Tang may notice that the color of their urine looks pink or rust colored. This is due to the senna (and polygonum multiflorum, discussed below) and is not dangerous.
Update: In 2010 Senna was apparently removed from Zi Xiu Tang. Some people report that their bowel movements are less while others report no change. See the comments for more information.
Cassia. Zi Xiu Tang also contains Cassia. While the word cassia is sometimes used to describe the spice, cinnamon, I don’t think this is how they are using the word because cassia can also be another name for senna.
Both of cassia and senna are listed separately on the Zi Xiu Tang label; cassia appears first, followed by senna. Both words are sometimes used together (“cassia senna”). Other names for cassia senna are Cassia acutifola, and Cassia angustifolia.
If cassia on the Zi Xiu Tang label refers to cassia senna then this too is a laxative and likely works synergistically with senna to promote a greater laxative effect.
Green Tea. Zi Xiu Tang also contains green tea. Because green tea contains caffeine, it’s theoretically possible that the caffeine may slightly raise metabolism. This is likely why the Zi Xiu Tang says “increase metabolism” and “increase energy” on the front of the display box. The box does not say how much caffeine is in Zi Xiu Tang.
Rhubarb. Zi Xiu Tang contains Rhubarb which also has laxative effects. It may also have estrogen-like effects. Rhubarb may act synergistically with senna and cassia to cause a greater laxative effect.
Aloe. Zi Xiu Tang contains aloe as well. Aloe juice also has a laxative effect however the bottle does not say if Zi Xiu Tang contains aloe juice or not.
Astragalus. Like all herbs there are many types of Astragalus. Often used to treat the common cold, this herb does not seem to have any laxative effect. As for astragalus side effects, in large amounts (about 1 ounce, which is likely more than is in Zi Xiu Tang) this herb may increase the immune system which, while good for some can also be bad for others like those with some immune system disorders such as rheumatoid arthritis.
Polygonum multiflorum. This is an herb also known as Fo-Ti. Some research notes Polygonum multiflorum has a mild laxative effect. At least 7 case reports have noted liver problems including hepatitis resulting from use/misuse of this herb.
Other reports hint that Polygonum multiflorum might alter blood sugar levels (that may be bad for diabetics).
On a side note, Polygonum multiflorum may also be found in supplements designed to lower cholesterol; research suggests that extracts may lower cholesterol and increase HDL. More research is needed to confirm this.
Gynostemma. Some websites say this herb can both cause both weight loss and weight gain. In this respect Gynostemma, might be classified as an adaptogen. An adaptogen is a non-medical term used in some circles to describe how a supplement “adapts” to your needs. Websites also claim that gynostemma has laxative effects. 
Radish Seed. I could not locate any weight loss effects of this ingredient.
Malt: I could not locate any weight loss effects of this ingredient.
Mulberry. This contains fiber which acts as a laxative.
Hawthorn. Warning! People who take medications for high blood pressure or a heart condition should not use hawthorn or supplements containing Hawthorn. Hawthorn does influence the way the heart pumps. This means hawthorn can interact with your heart or blood pressure medications.
Vitamins. Zi Xiu Tang lists “vitamins” but does not indicate which vitamins it contains.
Zi Xiu Tang Laxative Supplement Summary
To recap, here are the ingredients in Zi Xiu Tang that are laxatives
- Senna
- Cassia
- Rhubarb
- Aloe (if it contains Aloe juice)
- Polygonum multiflorum
- Gynostemma
- Mulberry
Zi Xiu Tang Warning Label
If you read the label of Zi Xiu Tang you see this warning of who should not use the product (I’m quoting them verbatim):
“Not Suitable For:
Women who are pregnant or breastfeeding. People who suffer from either, liver, kidney, Heart Disease, High Blood Pressure. Adolescents, Elderly, Depression people or Anyone with bee or pollen allergies.”
So, will Zi Xiu Tang work? For some the answer is yes. But, that’s because Zi Xiu Tang is basically a laxative. To be safe, people with medical problems should see their doctor before using Zi Xiu Tang.
Have you experienced any side effects from Zi Xiu Tang Bee Pollen supplements?
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So with all this being said Joe….would you take these pills with your knowledge. Just wondering bc i want to know your personal opinion. i just started taking the pills.
Hi Chris. For me I would not take zi xiu tang. I still believe they worked originally because they contained a drug that was not listed on the ingredients. whether I am right or not, I dont know but the fact remains that something has changed in the formula and many people have reported that zi xiu tang no longer works as it used to.
If you keep taking them, please let me and everybody else know what happens (did it work or not, side effect etc).
Whatever you do, dont listen to those kooky zi xiu tang distributors whose answer to everything having to do with side effects is “drink more water”. Its their go to answer for everything – and its a bunch of baloney.
If you have any odd side effects with zi xiu tang stop taking them.
Hi
I have been taking bee pollen since NOv. 2010. The original batch that I purchased which was about three months worth was a dream come true. I thought I discovered the way to never have to worry about gaining a pound again! After I finished that batch which was dated Oct., I purchased my second round that had dates on it that said Feb.
From that batch until now the pills have definitely not been the same. I have been in contact many times with the distributors…
ziuxiutangsuccess.
They say like all the previous posts that your body has just gotten used to it. I know that is not true because when i took a left over bottle of a friend of mines that was dated back in Oct… the pills were a miracle again!
Something has definitely changed since the Oct distribution and it has nothing to do with the senna ingredient. Senna was never in my pills that I ever took anyway! I just purchased the new and improved bottle that is extra strength.
I have to say that I have not gained any weight back but they are definitely not working like the original batch. If you have any information please let me know. I am afraid to totally stop taking them bec i dont want to gain weight. I also think though that something is not right and maybe its time to stop!
Dina, the distributors know also that zi xiu tang has changed. Ive seen internal emails which have confirmed this. The distributors are at a loss as well as to what has changed in zi xiu tang and this is why they are saying your body has adjusted to it, which is baloney.
since you have not gained the weight back yet its likely that you will not esp if you watch what you eat and do a little exercise. As Ive said many times, I think people should stop taking zi xiu tang. I dont know what was in it before and I dont trust it.
If you search through the comments for “Heather”, you’ll see that she had some very odd health issues which her doctor feels may have been caused by zi xiu tang. Others have also reported problems also.
While none of this can be scientifically pinpointed at zi xiu tang use, the problems I hear concern me. I feel you should listen to your instincts and stop taking it.
The only thing is I do not feel anything bad with it now, it just is not working the same way. Someone has recently told me about African Mango and Lichee Fruit extract…. do you know anything at all about that? It seems to claim it does the same thing as what the original bee pollen was doing. Thanks so much for answering me so quickly!!
I have no doubt in my mind that there was subutramine in the original formula … or at least the formula I received in the fall. The shipment I received in the new year was completely useless and did not have the appetite suppressant the first one did. I never did have the laxative effect so I didn’t have the one with the senna in it either.
It’s interesting that on other message boards for other similar products (ie. lida,etc.) that they are all reporting the same thing at the same time. In other words, a strong appetite suppressant product, tons of weight loss, … and all these results coming to a brief halt at the beginning of this year. By the way, I gained back 10 lbs of the 20lbs I lost in the 4 months I was taking it (the old formula that is).
Anyway, I was just wondering if you had or would be willing to look into a product called Oxelite Pro … it’s often combined with Alpha T2?
You’re still the only reliable source I’ve ever come across for information of this sort.
Inertia, let me take a look at Oxelite Pro. I have not heard of it. Im writing a review on something called SlimFuel right now. Ill look at the other product soon
Dina, Ive already written about african mango
http://supplement-geek.com/review-irvingia-gabonensis-african-mango/
Do read the comments of that review and take notice of “Ian” who took it for several weeks and reported on what happened.
I saw Lichee at Bed Bath and Beyond a few weeks ago and its been on my list to review but just as a first impression, based on what I saw when I read the box, I was not impressed.
Joe
I have one question. I have a friend that still has a bottle from the end of last year. From the Oct. batch. If i sent you the pills do you have access to getting it tested to see what exactly is in them as opposed to the ones being distributed now?
Dina, I have tried several times to get zi xiu tang tested. It would require a mass spectrometer to do this which I dont have access to. I have a bottle of zi xiu tang, given to me by a friend a year or so ago. I just cant find anyone willing to test it for me.
The FDA did seize some zi xiu tang a few months ago. I am still waiting to hear what their test uncovered. When I find out, I will post the results here for everybody to see.
thankyou!
pls, I need the original bee pollen that had me looking hot n supper skinny. this new product that they r distributing sucks. pls pls pls!!!!!!!!!!!!
That original bee pollen does not exist anymore. I have no idea what happened and what changed but I am assuming something was in it that should not have been , otherwise the distributors would not be trying to sell other new products like extra strength and ultimate formulas. These do not work either. I am disappointed as well but it makes no sense why it stopped working for everyone!!!!!
I just caught wind of “The Ultimate Formula” Zi Xui Tang pill… apparently it just came out, and they aren’t associated with Guangzhou Zi Xiu Tang Bio-Technology company, and senna and cassia ARE included in their ingredients.
I’m sure it’s just a fake, but the distributor is calling it the original zi xui tang formula, just under a new name. I have not purchased it, I just wanted to throw this info out there. I’m curious to see the results and testimonies of others… if it’s a dud then we know the cassia and senna weren’t the cause for weight loss in the original zi xui tang from last year. Thoughts?
You had stated above: Warning! People who take medications for high blood pressure or a heart condition should not use hawthorn or supplements containing Hawthorn. Hawthorn does influence the way the heart pumps. This means hawthorn can interact with your heart or blood pressure medications.
I read totally different: Hawthorn (Crataegus species) has been used to treat heart disease as far back as the 1st century. By the early 1800s, American doctors were using it to treat circulatory disorders and respiratory illnesses. Traditionally, the berries were used to treat heart problems ranging from irregular heartbeat, high blood pressure, chest pain, hardening of the arteries, and heart failure. Today, the leaves and flowers are used medicinally, and there is good evidence that hawthorn can treat mild-to-moderate heart failure.
Corrinia, Its true what you say about Hawthorn but back then people were not taking medications. Because hawthorn will affect heart function it is likely that it will interact with medications. The result could be that hawthorn enhances the effect of the medication or competes with the medication and makes it less effective. This outcome could vary according to what the med is. I however feel that hawthorn might have an additive effect.
The other thing to consider is that some hawthorn supplements may contain more or less than what is listed on the bottle. This again could lead to disastrous consequences. And, if someone does does not get their hawthorn from a reputable company, the product may contain other things not listed, that may have other effects. This is one of my concerns with zi xiu tang itself.
I feel the same way. The new pills do not work!!! Is there anything that anyone knows of that works like the old pills???!!!
From experience I am convinced that Zi Xiu Tang contained the active pharmaceutical ingredient sibutramine. Sibutramine is an appetite suppressant that was prescribed to treat obesity. Side effects include dry mouth, headache, increased heart beat, constipation, insomnia, just to name a few.
I believe the drug was removed from the original formula after it was withdrawn from the US market Oct. 8 2010. That would explain the flood of complaints of an ineffective Zi Xiu Tang and many other weight loss products being sold.
Counterfeit or not, dietary supplements are not to be trusted 100%. Supplements are not formally regulated by the FDA. They do not have to be tested for safety or efficacy before reaching the consumer. For this very reason there have been a great number of products that have been recalled for containing undisclosed pharmaceutical drugs in alarming dosages.
Unfortuneately, a supplement is only recalled by the FDA after it’s out in the marketplace and it has harmed people.
This should be cause for concern for anyone who takes dietary supplements, specially for weight loss! Pills promising so much without any effort. They almost encourage you to eat poorly!
Many of us find out the hard way that there is no magic pill! If it’s working like magic, it’s probably harming you in other ways! If it’s causing you to loose 20+ lbs in a month effortlessly or if it completely suppresses your appetite to the point you have to force yourself to eat, it’s laced! Stop immediately if you feel your heart is racing or you have shortness of breath!
I don’t want to rain on your parade if you have had success! Just be cautious with what you are putting into your body! Nothing is worth putting your health at risk!
Keep in mind that not everyone out there has your best interest at heart!
Be safe!
Vicky I’m starting to think something similar is going on with Japanese Hokkaido Weight Loss Pills too.
I hope not, I just purchased my first bottle of Hokkaido in hopes it would kick start my weight loss again since I not have bottles upon bottle of zi xiu tang that don’t work…
Hi Joe,
There is a new product out there being distributed by ZXT distributors called Superior Detox Capsules. There is no manufacturer listed on the bottle and I’m not getting anywhere with the distributor I bought them from as to where these capsules are coming from.
I purchased a bottle about a week ago and have lost 3 pounds. I have no where near the symptoms as the original ZXT except dry mouth. They seem to be working but I want to know who is making them.
Has anyone heard of Superior and where they are coming from?
Thanks!!!!!
Amy I looked at all of the ingredients in those Hokkaido pills and none of them should work yet people report it does. It makes me suspicious. here’s my review if you missed it http://supplement-geek.com/hokkaido-weight-loss-pills-review/
S. I have not heard of Superior Detox caps. That’s very odd that there is no manufacturer listed and SHAME on the distributor for not telling you. That’s not a person I would trust.
hi my name is Louise, I just purchased this product Zi Xiu Tang after reading all this review, I wonder if I made the right choice with this product? Granted I have not taken it yet, is there ANY good review at all?? Please let me know.
This is my 3rd day taking these pills and im laying here at 4:06 in the morning WIDE AWAKE!! I will not be using these pills anymore. They did suppress my appetite and increase my energy, but I have a very active 3 year old so I need to sleep to be able to keep up with him!!
I have to say a year ago I took the Bee Pollen and lost 30 pounds. I just purchased Ultimate Formula, has anyone taken these yet and what were your results?
Have you heard of Slym Magic? My friend said she lost 30lbs in 3 months and that it’s all natural ingredients. She goes to holistic doctors and doesn’t take over the counter medicine, so it made me want to try it out. I just ordered it and it won’t get here till next week.
Shelly Ill see if I can look into it. if it works for you let me know
I am currently taking ZXT Gold which is distributed by Floyds Nutrition. I know it is not Zi Xiu Tang. On the bottle it says each serving contains – Bee pollen, Chinese Yam, Wolfberry, Lotus Seed, Green Tea and Dietary Fiber. It does not list Senna or any of the other ingredients mentioned in the original Zi Ziu Tang.
I have the dry mouth and decreased appetite and increased energy. A little trouble sleeping but not bad. No stomach complaints at all and I have a terrible stomach. I have a hard time taking any pills and things like slim fast tear up my stomach.
So I guess I’m just wondering if this is a different supplement and possibly better for me. My cousin took it for several months and lost a lot of weight. She still takes one a day and says she has no problems. Your post that started in Feb. discussed ZXT gold briefly but I don’t see it in this string. wondering your thoughts.
Nicole, I have not looked at ZXT gold specifically but from what I see, I think its very similar to zi xiu tang. If the same company makes zxt gold as zi xiu tang, then Im suspicious. its not something I would take long term just to be safe. I’ll try to get more info on zxt god in the near future.
Does anybody else have any info on zxt gold?
I too have used the zxt gold and liked it a lot. I didnt get mine from the manufacture I found a girl in Florida from You Tube videos I watched. She told me zxt was made by fn and not the ppl in China that made Zi Xiu tang. I just got the infinity from her yesterday.
Has anyone used the infinity yet ?
Hi, I just got a message from a girl I have bought before when the formula was having problems and no longer worked. She states the original manufacturer in China agreed to go back to the old formula. The one with the Cassia & Senna, that worked. I wonder if it’s true or just a gimmick and if it will truely work. I have spent so much $ on this pill with no results. I also tried ZXT from manufacturer 2 weeks sample with no results. Also, tried a week sample of a pill she said was new Superior capsules which also didn’t work. So, has anyone heard anythng or know if this is true. Please, let me know if anyone has any info. Thanks.
This pill is not a laxative, how do I know this, I have been using it intermittently for the past year and even recommend it to my friends, not one day did I have such and effect, the only side effect is a dry mouth. No regular or abnormal bowel movements, it would be great if you go research this some more instead of writing up such reviews.. Try it before writing it up.. IT WORKS AND I NEVER GOT THAT SIDE EFFECT ..
i have read all these reviews and very sorry about the negativity. i to, took zi xiu tang, started in may of 2010, took until nov,2010. to my surprise i lost 46 lbs. at 64 this was heaven sent. did not have any side effects. had regular daily bowl movements. in the last yr, i gained back 16 of those lbs, so i ordered another bottle to jump start me. to my surprise i have not lost one lb. and i am more constipated than ever. what is that all about? i am soooo disappointed that these people are still taking our money with no results! i do some exercise , but am a very busy woman. try to eat right and still this stuff doesn’t work. any one have any good ideas!!!
I met someone at an event who swore by these pills. I went to the website that stated the pills were originals, and purchased a 90 day supply for about $90. I have taken the pills for what amounts to almost a full 4 weeks. I can honestly say that I take 2 in the morning 1 hour before breakfast, and I have not lost one pound. I also have not experienced any side effects, but at the moment I am thinking I have wasted yet another significant amount of money in the hopes of losing weight. If anyone can give me a site that offers the ones that work, please let me know.
Additionally, I also tried the Oxy elite pro from GNC….no luck there either.
CLT, sorry you are out $90. I wonder if you can get a refund? Since you saw no change in weight and no side effects makes me think they took out the “active” ingredient – or maybe all batches of the product dont have the same ingredients (lack of quality control is a big issue with some of these products).
you are not the only person to tell me that Oxy Elite Pro doesn’t work. I bet GNC would at least give you a store credit if you took the bottle back to them.
I’ve been taking Slym Magic for about 2 weeks, the ingredients are supposedly all natural except for the caffeine. I lost 3lbs so far with no working out in the 1st week and then no more weight came off.. What I did notice is that my underwear was fitting me loose which means I def lost inches the 2nd week, but I never measured myself to know how many. I guess that’s good. Your suppose to workout at least 3 days a week while on it to lose the most weight, I just don’t have the time. It does help me to eat less and it enhances my mood. (I’m very moody and irritable, lol) So this helps a lot in that department. It def doesn’t make me jittery or keep me awake at night. I usually take it between 6:30am or if I wake up late, no later then 11am. I’ll keep you guys updated.
I have been taking ZXT Gold after the zi xiu tang pill formula was changed. I have been buying them from the manufacturer since may of this year. I went from 137 lbs to 120 lbs. I am an RN and a busy mom of 2 kids under age 6. My stomach has not been this flat since the beginning of high school! I have had no side effects except that I feel warmer than normal (thermogenic feeling). Working out has become something I am motivated to do now that there isn’t the extra “jiggle” making it more difficult.
Wanted to pass this along to everybody. The FDA has recalled another weight loss supplement because it had sibutramine. Here’s the link.
http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/ResourcesForYou/Consumers/BuyingUsingMedicineSafely/MedicationHealthFraud/ucm276048.htm
I only used a trial pack of ZXT pills to help me lose that last 10 pounds, and I never experienced the laxative effect. I did seem to get a fever for a few days, but it helped me lose weight because my appetite just went away. I’m not sure if it was actually the pills since I couldn’t find anything about the ingredients affecting hunger, so it may have been the placebo effect.
I have been using the Zi-Xiu Tang capsules for about a year now. I started in August of 2010 and when I first started, I lost about 15 lbs in the first 3 months! After that, I have seem to hit a plateau. I exercise every day, but no weight loss and have been experiencing all the symptoms you mentioned. I recently ordered the 500 mg, double strength capsules thinking a stronger dose would work better, but it hasn’t done anything! Do the pills not work after a certain amount of time? Am I doing something wrong?
I feel that the secret ingredient is effedra. I used to take effedra a while ago. when I took my first 2 this morning, I felt the same effects. so I think the unknown ingredient is EFFEDRA.. just my opinion
Johnny, you may be on to something. I just saw an FDA report where they sized 4000 pounds of ingredients for products that were found to contain ephedra. One of the ingredients was cassia, which is an ingredient in Zi Xiu Tang. It makes me wonder…
Here is the FDA announcement http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm282537.htm
I’ve been taking this product an have not lost any weight. I don’t know why. I’ve been taking it for 6mos,I exercise everyday? So what am I doing wrong?
Alicia, I don’t think you are doing anything wrong. Do not beat yourself up! I believe Zi Xiu Tang that you have no longer has the “mystery ingredient” that caused it work work in the past. On my other site Ive writen about weight loss products and offered some tips that might help you http://www.joe-cannon.com/what-weight-loss-supplements-work/ check these out and see if any of them help.
i do know that the original formula for Zi Xiu Tang is back! Ive been taking it on and off for about 2 years now! I went through the highs and lows also but stayed very close with my distributor during. They did take out cassia and senna for a while and that is why it didn’t work!!!! However now it is back…. the original is back…. but when you order you need to make sure they are selling you that formula and not the old one or the extra strength…. these do not work!!!!!!!
I have been taking new formula along with several others and we are all losing like we did in the beginning! Yes some will get laxative effects… however if you do not fill yourself with junk… it doesn’t happen… all of the group i take it with say the same thing!
I think you have to remember if you are looking for anything to work like a gift from god without any effort on yourself you are senseless and any weight loss you do encounter will come back. You have to change your lifestyle… eat right, drink more water, and excessive!!! With that being said these Zi Xiu Tang pills can help you while you change your lifestyle… but are not to be taken for ever.
They have other great effects to though not just weight-loss. My hair grows fast and shines like never before, nails also. Skin looks awesome and i almost never get sick.
So i guess you should weigh all your options and decide what its worth to you… Ill look on this website often or you can email me if you have questions!
I have used this product with no laxative side effects. The weight loss has been gradual and no negative effects. I am pleased with the results as my weight only kept climbing and showed no signs of stopping no matter how little i ate. I started the product and have lost about eight pounds so far. I find that i don’t have the cravings i had before, my appetite is suppressed…maybe it is all in my head but i am seeing positive results.
The hospital i work at is just buzzing with the results of this product, people are losing weight like crazy! I have only heard one comment about the laxative results. Many nurses nd other staff, men and women alike are taking this product with positive results; there must be something in the combination of drugs that is working for us all.
Perhaps at a later time i could have more to say about the product after being on it for a while, but at this point i have only positives to say.
I have been taking this product since Thursday January 5th, At First I noticed because I drinking so much water, I was urinating every hour on the hour, but that has lessened although I have noticed that I am constantly leaking urine, having to wear pantyliners to protect my underwear. I have also noticed that i have had trouble sleeping, staying up later and even after going to sleep waking up alot. My bowel movements haven’t really changed that much as I am very regular already. I haven’t noticed weight loss yet, probably too soon to tell, and as for the loss of appetite its because your drinking so much water, and water is a filling product by itself, and I have changed my eating habits. So I am not completely sure I am gonna continue taking them after this month. I need my sleep lol.
I also tried the original and yes it worked … I only used it for a week because i had a sample pack, it worked so well i bought two bottles and yes the new formula did not work. Now the original is back and i tried it again it definitely works but why?
There is so much more in this we dont know, the racing heart, crazy amounts of energy, dry mouth and cramping and for me at least insomnia which is the reason I’m writing this now its 3:45 am and cant sleep i have not slept for a straight three hours in over a week….. its taking a toll on me I love the weight loss but what ever is doing this to me cant be good… There is something in this we dont know and until we do I have to stop taking this.
I Do NOT recommend zixiutang capsulse to anyone. I’ve tried myself and end up going to the hospital for a chest & back pain and blurry vision. 2 of my friends tried also, one experienced liver pain and vomits every night oily stuff. And my other friend chest and back pain. There is a big results for weight loss, but very dangerous to your health.
I bought the original bee pollen pills from a distributor at my mother’s job. I had amazing results. I went from a size 16 to an 8 in about 3 months. I had no appetite, I was hyper, when I worked out I would, almost magically, sprint on the treadmill for a half hour and it barely winded me. That’s what really made me believe in those pills, I went from struggling just to walk 10 minutes on the treadmill to sprinting for an entire 30 minutes.
Once my first bottle was done, I got a second and it was like I was taking placebo pills…nothing happened. I stopped losing and I gained back like 20 pounds. I think the lesson here is don’t try to substitute hard work and a healthy diet for a pill. Am I sad that I’m not waking up every morning 2 lbs lighter? Yea…but I don’t know what was in that first bottle, and maybe it’s better I don’t have it anymore.
I too want to start the zi xiu tang pills, i have seen so many results from my friends and even my spouse, i just want to shed a few pounds, but now i am skeptical…where do i order the originals from if i decide to proceed?
@Jennifer, can you share you supplier? I took a break from the pills for about a year now, ever since they stopped working. I started using another supplement I found through these threads, and it works, but the side effects are worse than when I was taking the original version of the zi xiu tang.
Anyway, if the original formula is back, I would really like to get my hands on it from a reliable dealer. Thanks!
Because I have everybody’s best interest at heart, I just want to point out some of the crazy/scary symptoms people have been reporting about this product recently. If you have not seem them check out some of the recent comments on my “zi xiu tang side effects” post http://supplement-geek.com/zi-xin-tang-side-effects/
It does seem like something has changed with this product recently but I would be cautious of flocking back to a company that added something that seemed to work and then abruptly took it out (why?) and then seemed to add it back in again. I’m not sure what’s happening but I do advise caution especially if you have ANY health conditions. Also be leary of any zi xiu tang associate who says to ‘drink, drink, drink water” and does not mention anything about hyponatremia (water overload disease).
I feel like those who experienced adverse health issues had something else going on with their body and that it was not a direct result of the product. I took the original product for over a year and a half without any side effect whatsoever, aside from losing weight, and then being able to easily maintain that weight loss.
I have been taking Hokkaido for about 4 or 5 months, and while it works, I have severe headaches and trouble sleeping. I would love to go back to zi xiu tang if it is the formula from 2 years ago…
The pills I was taking really messed up my head and eyes.still trying to get over the effects,won’t take any more of your pills sorry
Joe, Did you find anything more about ZXT and ZXT Gold from floyd nutrition from I am seeing zixiutang from ?? china?? is what people are complaining about bad effects etc..
Floyd Nutrition is saying ZXT Gold is the same as the old zixiutang (same ingredients?) but they are saying it not from the zixiutang manufacturer Guangzhou Zixiutang Biotechnology Company, they have a new manufacturers for ZXT and ZXT Gold and/or all there products, what have you found out?
Amy thats possible that health problems might exacerbate issues with zi xiu tang but its also true that many people who are overweight also have health issues that should be considered.
Michelle, based on what I have heard in the past from others my opinion is I dont trust anything Floyd says about this product. If we dont know what was in the original zi xiu tang, how did Floyd find out? I’ve heard zi xiu tang has senna (a laxative) but other than that I have not heard a lot about it.
I guess what I was saying it seems people are posting here about problems with zi xiu tang but not ZXT and ZXT Gold from Floyd nutrition specifically just wondering were they are getting there zi xiu tang from, if that even matters
Hello Joe, Its been awhile. I wanted to give you some more info on the ZXT that I have recently received. They have forgone the old formula and come out with about 4 different new ones. One not even being under the title ZXT or ZXT gold. I will never take ZXT again as i am 1) finally having a successful pregnancy and 2) i seem to have a developed a heart murmur. But a friend of mine has resumed taking it after almost a year and she is dropping weight. Same as before her appetite is gone and she is..”pooping like a duck” haha sorry but that’s what we call it. The effects of the ZXT gold seem to be the same as the original formula which did in fact contain Senna. I’m nervous for her but its not in my power to tell her yes or no.
The cassia and senna in the original i think are in the new formula. 6 total laxatives i researched months ago to be key ingredients in the pills. and one ingredient actually aggravated blood pressure in certain studies. Sorry this comment is all over the place. Just wanted to get it out there.
Did i lose 80lbs on ZXT? Yes
Did i get high blood pressure and a heart murmur? YES
Did i have 2 miscarriages (which obviously i can not directly blame on this pill) Yes.
So buyer beware. Sometimes if it seems to be too good to be true..it is.
Nikki, good to hear from you again and thanks for the update I didn’t know about the new formulas. I know you have been through a lot and I have wondered how you were doing. I’m really glad to hear about your pregnancy! Excellent!!!
can someone tell me where to get the new Zi Xiu Tang formula? I also was on the old Zi Xiu Tang for a while and yes, it worked well, loosing more than 10 pounds in a month.. (more than I actually needed, frankly) However, about a year ago the formula changed and nothing happened.. I’ve since moved on to another appetite suppressant but i am afraid it isn’t as good as ZXT.. Now, someone (Jennifer) I think, in a previous post said the old formula is back.. Can someone tell me where to get it? who’s the supplier? I’ve already spent so much money on the phony non-working formula that I would appreciate if I can get a reliable source. Thanks
Nikki and Joe
I too thought that the zi xiu tang was the absolute cure for weight loss! I was taking it for about nine months and after that time it just stopped working. While taking it I did lose a ridiculous amount of weight without doing anything but taking the pill.
I experienced all the same side effects that everyone is talking about. Dry mouth, insomnia at night, sometimes I would feel my heart beating, and my stomach would make the craziest noises. I was always going to the bathroom after anything i would eat. At the time I didn’t mind those side effects because I was getting so thin no matter what I would eat. Granted sometimes I had to remind myself to eat but I was able to eat anything I wanted.
When i started questioning why all of a sudden the pills stopped working and came upon this site, i realized that something had to be in them that shouldn’t be. I am a very fit petite woman. I have never had any health issues whatsoever. After taking the zi xiu tang and now being off of them, just at my normal physical exams I am coming to find that my blood pressure is now high for me. My pressure has always been on the very low side and now I truly believe because of these pills my pressure is high.
I hope with time being off of them, it comes back to normal. I do not want to be put on any blood pressure medicine. My advice to everyone…. stay away from these pills no matter how tempting they are!!!
I have been taking these pills for 10 days – at first, it was wonderful. I had more energy and did not feel as hungry as I normally do. I lost 4 lbs. the first week and then everything started to change. I got dry mouth, headaches and gained back the 4 lbs. Very upsetting. I have stopped taking the pills. I guess there is no easy way to lose weight.
Dina,
I had serious high BP problems a few months after i was taking the pills. but of course being blinded by the weightloss success i said oh no its not the pills. Once i stopped taking them i came off my BP meds – Hydrochlorothiazide – i sleep better, less palpatations and no more BP and even being pregnant my BP has been perfect every time.
I hope all things go back to normal for you and you dont have any more yucky side effects!
I just bought a bottle of Zi Xiu. They were bought at a well known Vitamin shop. After looking online, apparently the ones I bought are counterfeit. They are 250mg and was sold in a bottle of 48 pills for 25.00. I went to the official website, zixiutangbeepollen.com and contacted an authorized dealer of the pills. From what I found out, the authentic ones only come in a pill bottle of 60 pills at 500mg. T
he pills are green/white, with little red Chinese lettering on the white part of pills. My pills that I bought don’t have the red lettering. The price of the authentic pills is 59.95, which from what I am told, is going to be the standard price sold directly by the company and the authorized dealers. Further, though the box and labeling looked good, but it was in Chinese. Only one side of the box was in English.
Further, the pamphlet inside was all Chinese. From what I am told, if it was legit, it would all be in English. There was the scratch-off code on the back of the bottle which you can authenticate, but when I did it, again, the results were in Chinese. Oh, by the way, I don’t read, write or understand Chinese!!
So, according to the authorized dealer, I have fakes. Could the fakes be made with the same ingredients and are just manufactured by a different company, but are safe to take (like generics)?
I too just bought a bottle of ZXT from zixiutangpollencapsules.com. I have only started taking them – I have had 2 doses. I just read this thread and I have found that my pills do not have the red letters. Should I be concerned they are “fakes”. I had thought the above company was a real dealer.
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